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Folks, here's something that really bothers
me. When someone takes the time to share valuable information and even
provides links and resources and how-to instructions, the thing to do is
say 'thank you'. It's not kosher to whine about what he/she didn't give
you.
Certainly, ask when you have questions or need clarification, but a few of the posts in this (and other) threads that assume the poster owes a complete and total step-by-step lesson on every aspect of putting together a profitable IM business are way out of line. Be grateful for the information being shared. Ask if you'd like to know more, but don't assume/whine/yell that you haven't recieved enough information. Take the bull by the horns and go out and find what you need to know! To Kneb, and many others, thank you for taking the time to share. Cindy |
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Maybe because the title of the thread is
"$3,000 in 45 days + $2,000 in 30 days + $600 in 3
days..."
Okay, The information in this thread is great, don't get me wrong. I just feel it's a little misleading. He has stated that you can flip these sites over and over again for hundreds of dollars and thousands as the title states..but realistically you can't exactly build a blog then a week later sell it for hundreds of dollars..and do that a million times over..based on past history at the selling places listed in this forum these blogs are not selling for more then 100bucks and that's GOOD ($100) |
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Actually, I'm referring to the posts that
complain because this (and other) threads don't also tell them how to set
up all other aspects of their business (traffic, coversion, etc.). At some
point, people have to work up the gumption to look it up for
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How much a site sells for really depends on a
number of things. The niche, the design, the layout, the SEO, the traffic, the income,
etc etc.
I generally sell sites with 100 or less pages for $500-$1000. Usually these are made with PLR content. Public Domain stuff I've done over the years and currently sell some on Amazon, but I can't remember if I've made and sold a site with it. There's plenty of deals made "behind the scenes" at various site selling sites too, so just because you can't see any obvious evidence doesn't mean it isn't happening |
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As Bishop81 and Omeyer wisely posted a few posts ago, this was not intended to be a "blog flipping only" thread... But I can tell you that I know of some Warriors making $3,000 per month flipping blogs (and their blogs are not as good as mine, lol)... That´s more than "$3,000 in 45 days"... An offine student of mine has flipped his "martial arts" blog in 62 days, for over $5,000... and all because the blog sells a killer step-by-step Public Domain old book, that is accompanied with videos of the guy doing the movements... Do your own research, this type of deals are being made online and offline everyday. But I was just sharing some examples... just that. I can share hundreds of other examples and case studies that have anything to do with "flipping" and are way more profitable and easy to implement... Take a look at the other case studies I´ve been posting throughout this thread... Take a look at what other Warriors are doing and also sharing in this thread... There´s gold in their posts. I will update my original post, to show new different and distant examples, to not give the impression that this is about "blog flipping" only... What about making "$2,000 in 3 days with Youtube and PD government information" ? Food for thought... :) | |
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BTW:
Here's something which I do not think was addressed, and if it was, it would be good to reiterate for the later readers. Example, Say i have this Nice blog on a great niche Blog is doing well for 1 month (great traffic, good feedback, adsense, amazon, clickbank) I decide to sell the blog and my main advertising edge is that the blog has good income and already has clickbank links, adsense, amazon affiliate links...etc. When I sell/flip this blog, what happens to my own affiliate links, click bank links, all the whole likes? If my selling point is the money that my links have generated, wouldn't i have to sell my rights to all income and all of my links...but, in doing that, will I not have to give out personal info which relates to my registration of all of my affiliate accounts? |
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I was just wanting to point out that it would be good to tell people that they need their own affiliate links and the whole set up before purchasing the blog... I know a few asked it, and I had my answer the same as yours but wasn't for sure if it would be the correct way to go about it. | |
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I ran a little test on duplicate content though and here are my broad generalizations. If a public domain work is in text/html format it will be indexed. But if the work is only in pdf format, besides google books, they seem not to be indexed at all. And sorry tj I had to edit your url links because WF won't let me quote you with them because I have less than 15 posts. | |
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Just wanted to thank you for this great
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I'm DEFINITELY interested in taking your
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Thanks for the inspiration...now for the perspiration! :-) |
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One tidbit which i will add...probably this is
obvious, but it does not hurt to add it...
The niche that some of the new comers will do better at is a niche that you are well interested in. If trying to write or collect data on subjects which you have no interest, it is going to make it very hard to keep up the energy to collect data, scrounge the net, and re-write/repackage. That's what i do...I stay in niches which are hot but also, they are something that I have a vast amount of knowledge in, also, niches where I enjoy plugging away at them...this is not always convenient for every but it does help if you can find hot niches which you have a high interest. For instance, I would have a hell of a time doing a niche on veterans benefits due to not having an interest in that area, yet, I would kill in the fitness/weightloss niche (no matter if it's drenched or not). That brings me to the next tidbit, you have to know which niches are satiated beyond. Those niches are popular but may not be best choice to hop into due to being so competitive. |
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Thank YOU for this post! Real awesome and very
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The whole duplicate content thing has been
clearly explained several times, but people still worry too much about it.
Duplicate Content only matters if it's on the same domain. If you have 2
different sites with the same content on it, then it just doesn't matter.
I've been using PLR
articles that I know aren't unique on a site and it hasn't negatively
affected the site at all. The only thing I do is change the title in order
to target more highly searched keywords.
Seriously, don't worry so much about stuff and just do something. Anything. People spend way too much time worrying about "What if's" and "What about's". Just start doing something and if something happens, then change your approach. Chances are, you might even earn a couple dollars in the process. I've followed trends and tried proxy sites, site flipping, blogs, etc... With each thing I've done, I may not have earned much, but I've LEARNED something. Whether it's about internet marketing, other people, technologies involved, or even myself and my skills, I always learn something. That's the most important thing. If you have concerns, then just try something and see what happens. If you don't have money to risk, then earn it. Find ways to earn it without spending anything. Eventually, you're going to have to try, and you're going to have to fail. I just recently read an ebook on site flipping and it had some great information in it, along with great examples. I've sold sites for up to $450, so I know that it can be done. I thought this would be a great attempt at something new for me, and possibly a nice monthly income. Well, I outsourced the articles rather cheaply, bought a logo for the site, and then built it and posted it on sitepoint. I actually did this with 2 sites at the same time. I spent about $60 on each site, hoping to sell it for $179. After a week, I dropped the price, and then again after another week. I couldn't even sell them for $75. What was the problem? The niche was good (both in the same one), the articles were decent, the ad copy was decent (I thought), and the design was very nice. Was it the market? Other people were selling similar types of sites and others weren't. Was it the time of year? It was in November, but people were still selling sites for similar prices. When all is said and done, though, I'm still glad that I took the risk. The sites have brought in a few dollars through adsense, and I know that they will be decent earners once I put a little more effort into them. I learned that I probably need to get better articles up, and do my keyword research when asking for articles instead of just saying "write about whatever you want in this niche". I also found a couple other great plugins that I started using. I'm sure there's other stuff, but my point is this. You'll never learn anything about what you're doing, or about yourself until you try. Just don't get hung up on little things. Don't worry so much about where you're going to sell a site, or who's going to buy it, or what's going to happen when they do buy it, or even how do I get traffic to my new site? Those questions can all be answered after you do the first step. Take Action. If you build what you believe to be a quality site and it doesn't sell, then build it bigger and earn more money from it. If you don't know how to get traffic to your site then do some research. This forum is loaded with traffic generation techniques. The biggest thing is to just start doing something. |
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You are totally right ... take action! IMO
your sites would have sold without issue if you were making consistent
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Kneb,
Looks like I'm too late for the coaching, but I wanted to write and tell you I'm blown away by your generosity in sharing all of this "actionable" info. . . . if someone can't make money from what you've just given us, they must be sleep-walking. You obviously enjoy working with PD, and it shows. Thanks for a great post! Sheila |
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Bishop is absolutely right. We get way too
scared by what others say and use that as a crutch not to take action. I
do that myself sometimes and lose out. It is much easier to listen to a
bunch of people how this can't be done or that can't be done and then
don't do it. Spend a few hours testing an assumption you always heard in
IM and see for yourself if it's a fact or myth.
And I am so grateful to Kneb who is a living and breathing encyclopedia on public domain info. I read ALOT of stuff on IM and by far this is the best info I have come across in a long long time. Kneb more than did his part with all the terrific info he bestowed on us, now it's our part to take action. |
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What
do you need to be clarified? All books published in the US before 1923
that are not foreign publications are in the public domain. That posting
you're referring to has nothing to do with pre1923 stuff. What the poster
does is a interpretation of rules regarding foreign books published in
1908 in the USA and books published 1923 and later.
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Great Idea! I agree that most of the the
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This might be a better way to get more fressh content |
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Hi Kneb
I sent you a PM about the coaching last week. Hopefully I am on your list when you decide to start it. BTW I bought your WSO last time around and but did not manage to follow all the resources that you gave out. Looking forward to your coaching. Thanks |
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. Pre-Lesson ONE (pilot): Not for the faint of the
heart... Niche: Stamps and Stamps
Collecting Results 1-10 of about 7,445 Ready
Made Products: A more specific example? Niche: Genealogy Results 1-10 of about 52,338 Ready
Made Products: Niche: Insomnia, sleep
disorders Niche: Stock Market Results 1-10 of about
109 Niche: Procrastination Results 1-10 of about 129
Niche: Crisis, Recession Results 1-10 of about 940
Results 1-10 of about 34,465
Niche: Vegetarian Diet, Raw Food
Diet Results 1-10 of about 38 Results 1-10 of about 424 Results 1-10 of about 13
You can go on and
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This just go to show you the power of the
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Cool...so basically with the world cat we just
find a good book or books to use...copy the hard copy book into digital
format...and then start selling that niche to customers. it sounds pretty
straight forward to me.
or am i leaving something out? I already have a student loan blog set up..and will attempt to duplicate the results one of your students has had. i'll keep everyone post on my results. -jb |
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Just wanted to thank you Kneb for all of the
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Not only do I have this thread bookmarked, I leave it open in a separate window and refresh it several times a day. |
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Hi Kneb,
Just to be clear on something.....Can a person use a PD book that is already online? In your first posts you provided a lot of links to websites with PD material, so I assumed that those books were free game? But later on you suggested to someone that they find a *physical* copy of a PD book and transcribe that book and post it on the internet. Can we still use the material that is online, from the links you posted to in the beginning of this thread? Surely all of that is indexed, isn't it? But you must have posted those links for a reason. I guess what I also don't understand is for what reason would someone buy a website that has free public domain material that can be found on any of the multitude of websites you previously linked to, for free? I'm still going to try it :-) I just don't understand the logic behind it.... |
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Let me answer some of your questions: Yes, you can use public domain material that is already online - that's the beauty of public domain - it's copyright free and free to use. You can use it in the original way for your stuff. Let's say you have a blog in the self-help area (it is a very large area and there ton's of stuff to use.) You can take public domain material and post them as article's/ postings over several day's/ weeks in your blog. You add affiliated products to the blog and adsense -> and you have already one store front in the web. Connected to that blog you can use the public domain material to drive traffic to your blog. Rewrite the content and use it as articles for article directories or as forum posts in related forums. What's the logic behind it? Let me ask you a questions - when did you went the last time to a bookstore? There you can see publishers who are successfully sell public domain material ... ever heard about the fairy tales of the Grimm Brothers? They are in the public domain and the links to the fairy tales are all over the net so you can read it for free. And are still be sold in the book stores. If the publishers of the books would not see a logic behind that, would they still sell that stuff? Timo | |
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A quick query:
If using public domain material for blog post and articles - is the there a chance that it may be flagged as duplicate content as it's already online? Any thoughts? (Sorry if this has already been discussed but this such a large thread I may have missed it!) |
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Thanks for the thoughts Timo.
What I am looking at here is the option to use PD material for blogs and articles instead of PLR and the re-writing that is required with it. I guess it's a question of how much of the PD material is in use - which I guess depends upon the popularity of the niche. From what I'm reading, much of the PD material is 'hidden away' and probably not being used. Has anyone used PD material 'as it stands' and had it ranked as original content? Thansk. Peter |
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thanks for your question. For my case I do it often with books published in the USA between 1950's and the 1960's (advantage is that it is almost the same language as it is today so it does not need to be rewritten a lot.) For pre- and post-1923 material I did and do it for instance with recipes and content like magic tricks, civil war material (another large area, @ least here in the USA that Kneb did not mentioned) etc. - just to name a few. Timo | |
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You can find a pdf or image of a public domain book pages online that is not in text or html format (because they would be indexed). Then manually take a random sentence from the pdf or jpg/gif of the book and put that in google. If it comes up then it is duplicate, if it doesn't come up then the content won't be duplicate. If the first test came back as not duplicate then take maybe 2 or 3 other sentences from the book and run the same test just to make sure. If it is not duplicate then save the book to your hard drive and run it through ocr software. | |
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Thanks for sharing this Kneb, valuable
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thanks for the post. That kind of information is found usually in the credits the publishing agency posts on their site or in case of pdf's - then in the pdf. Also still needs to be mentioned again that state government stuff can be under the protection of copyright. Timo | |
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Likewise documents from other governments are not necessarily under the same kind of public domain rule. If someone doesn't take into consideration these factors, they could easily make an honest but devastating mistake. I know many of us presume that's just due diligence, but not everyone thinks in the same lines, so I try to help avoid misunderstandings as best I can. | |
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The Weaver & Animus Matrix a lengthy fantasy fiction
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